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		<title>By: fergyboi &#187; I&#8217;m Not Alone</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10450</link>
		<dc:creator>fergyboi &#187; I&#8217;m Not Alone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems i&#8217;m not the only one that has run into trouble on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fergyboi &#187; Is It Worth It?</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10429</link>
		<dc:creator>fergyboi &#187; Is It Worth It?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ripped off in an online transaction, googled some information from the deal and found my post eBay Scam. They subsequently did not take part in said deal&#8230;and were better off as a result. It&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ripped off in an online transaction, googled some information from the deal and found my post eBay Scam. They subsequently did not take part in said deal&#8230;and were better off as a result. It&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Cramb</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10425</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Cramb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fergus,

Putting my West Africa hat on, Nigeria does get a bad reputation, but it is a little unfair, I think. With the largest population in Africa, 140m plus, and a high literacy rate in English ( subject to some grammatical idiosyncracies ! ) you might expect more crooks from that country.  I doubt if they are inherently more criminal than anywhere else.

Andrew</description>
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<p>Putting my West Africa hat on, Nigeria does get a bad reputation, but it is a little unfair, I think. With the largest population in Africa, 140m plus, and a high literacy rate in English ( subject to some grammatical idiosyncracies ! ) you might expect more crooks from that country.  I doubt if they are inherently more criminal than anywhere else.</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Fergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron - no problem at all, glad you found it.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10381</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.. thank you very much for posting this!

I was contacted by the SAME email address for my iPhone eBay listing, asking if they can pay me outside of PayPal. Did a Google search for the email address to see if it was known anywhere, and your blog came up! I read about the scam and promptly deleted that message.

Thank you for saving me a lot of trouble and possibly money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.. thank you very much for posting this!</p>
<p>I was contacted by the SAME email address for my iPhone eBay listing, asking if they can pay me outside of PayPal. Did a Google search for the email address to see if it was known anywhere, and your blog came up! I read about the scam and promptly deleted that message.</p>
<p>Thank you for saving me a lot of trouble and possibly money!</p>
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		<title>By: Fergy</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10370</link>
		<dc:creator>Fergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Callum - de-appling? Don't tell me El Spelling Guru made a typo there!</description>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10360</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your scam experience. You might enjoy this:
http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm

It describes the story of a guy who fought back against the scammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your scam experience. You might enjoy this:<br />
<a href="http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm</a></p>
<p>It describes the story of a guy who fought back against the scammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Callum Macdonald</title>
		<link>http://fergus-macdonald.com/2008/09/19/ebay-scam/#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see you're de-appling brother! :)

Spotted a wee typo, I think you mean crafty:
&lt;blockquote&gt;my crafy Gmail Spam filter&lt;/blockquote&gt;
eBay seem to be quite heavy handed with all matters relating to terms violations / fraud / etc. I know they've been quick to remove your listings in the past because of apparent terms violations, without any real investigation or discussion.

I think this problem is endemic in any "private" community like eBay. It's a bit like &lt;a href="http://www.callum-macdonald.com/2008/09/03/google-government/" title="Callum on Google Government" rel="nofollow"&gt;what I was saying about Google&lt;/a&gt;. eBay have created their own private world. They are the absolute masters of their land. The corporation is an absolute dictator.

Strictly speaking, eBay is governed by the law. But technology is a new frontier, the internet a new land to be conquered. The law doesn't always apply, or isn't always clear regarding modern transactions. eBay is a world-wide business, so it spans any single legal jurisdiction. The corporation is largely unanswerable to it's customers, to the people, the users, it's population.

I dare say, as with any tyrannical regime in history (except perhaps the current ones), it will fall in due course. People will only accept oppression for so long. Sooner or later something will be done.

PayPal, Google, eBay, Second Life, they're all good examples of a new Machiavellian frontier. Conquer and keep lands, maintain absolute dictatorship for as long as possible. Generally keep people obedient and in line.

The beauty is that these systems work. They work well, efficiently, and arguably more efficiently than the chaotic alternative. A system that allowed free trading between parties on the internet would surely cause chaos. Fraud, scams, and other trickery would surely be rife. So in giving up our freedom, our autonomy, our rights, we do make a significant gain.

In my opinion, that trade is not a lasting solution though. Such is the nature of things, those in power will slowly accrue more power, provide less efficiency, and so create their own undoing.

"For we fight not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, but for freedom alone, for which no good man gives up except with his life!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see you&#8217;re de-appling brother! <img src='http://fergus-macdonald.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Spotted a wee typo, I think you mean crafty:</p>
<blockquote><p>my crafy Gmail Spam filter</p></blockquote>
<p>eBay seem to be quite heavy handed with all matters relating to terms violations / fraud / etc. I know they&#8217;ve been quick to remove your listings in the past because of apparent terms violations, without any real investigation or discussion.</p>
<p>I think this problem is endemic in any &#8220;private&#8221; community like eBay. It&#8217;s a bit like <a href="http://www.callum-macdonald.com/2008/09/03/google-government/" title="Callum on Google Government" rel="nofollow">what I was saying about Google</a>. eBay have created their own private world. They are the absolute masters of their land. The corporation is an absolute dictator.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, eBay is governed by the law. But technology is a new frontier, the internet a new land to be conquered. The law doesn&#8217;t always apply, or isn&#8217;t always clear regarding modern transactions. eBay is a world-wide business, so it spans any single legal jurisdiction. The corporation is largely unanswerable to it&#8217;s customers, to the people, the users, it&#8217;s population.</p>
<p>I dare say, as with any tyrannical regime in history (except perhaps the current ones), it will fall in due course. People will only accept oppression for so long. Sooner or later something will be done.</p>
<p>PayPal, Google, eBay, Second Life, they&#8217;re all good examples of a new Machiavellian frontier. Conquer and keep lands, maintain absolute dictatorship for as long as possible. Generally keep people obedient and in line.</p>
<p>The beauty is that these systems work. They work well, efficiently, and arguably more efficiently than the chaotic alternative. A system that allowed free trading between parties on the internet would surely cause chaos. Fraud, scams, and other trickery would surely be rife. So in giving up our freedom, our autonomy, our rights, we do make a significant gain.</p>
<p>In my opinion, that trade is not a lasting solution though. Such is the nature of things, those in power will slowly accrue more power, provide less efficiency, and so create their own undoing.</p>
<p>&#8220;For we fight not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, but for freedom alone, for which no good man gives up except with his life!&#8221;</p>
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